Francis penned an article this morning that bears some further questions. I encourage you to give it a read. As others have explained recently, including Ace, Kurt Schlichter, Tom Kratman, and many other luminaries on the Right, we are perched on the edge of a knife. Violence is simmering beneath the surface – perhaps even a full-blown Civil War. Francis explains:
There’s no reasoning with one who considers you evil. There’s certainly no compromising with him. He’s out to destroy you. He’ll take whatever opportunity you offer to slip the dirk between your fourth and fifth ribs and twist it. Nor is there any way for you to convince him that you’re not evil. He assumes a priori that everything you say is ultimately aimed at his destruction.
At that point it becomes war to the knife.
We haven’t yet seen violence with actual casualties. But we will.
So what gives? Why hasn’t it started yet? I was discussing this with a personal friend yesterday, a veteran, MMA fighter, and all-around guy you don’t want to fuck with. He is the sort of man that, were the war to start tomorrow, would be on the front lines. He expressed to me his fear, not for himself, but for his wife, his children, and the end of a relatively prosperous life. For even if he survived the conflict, he mused, life would never be the same.
Veterans are largely Rightists, and Leftists are largely pussies who have spent their lives avoiding any kind of real physical risk. So the Right has a much better sense for what a war within our borders would really look like. The Left, as Francis notes in the following quote, has no idea because they have not suffered consequences for this behavior up until now.
Bad behavior must be punished. The Left’s decision to use harassment and intimidation against conservatives and Republicans is about as bad as behavior gets without becoming legally actionable. Up to now, it’s met no significant degree of punishment. Therefore, as it’s getting its practitioners some of what they want (including a shameful degree of satisfaction), it will increase.
If it increases past a certain level, it will trigger lethal violence.
Rightists, like my friend, are rightly fearful of the consequences of this thing going bad. We have some idea of what this really means, and so we hold back earnestly hoping for another way. This, in turn (and sadly), emboldens the Leftists, most of whom have no Earthly idea what they are really agitating for, or the risks they are taking, because they have no experience with risks like these.
However, at some point Leftist derangement will exceed the Rightist’s reluctance to resort to violence. And when that Rubicon is crossed, there is no going back. Leftists are quicker to violence, but Rightists are far better at it. The consequences of this will be grave.
To top it off, nobody really knows exactly where the Rubicon is, in this political mess. Will it be gun control or confiscation? Will it be the next time a Democrat wins control over the federal government? Will they be hellbent on revenge and do something they shouldn’t? Will it be getting Rightists fired from their jobs, destroying their businesses and ability to earn, such that they have nothing to lose? Or will it be a cumulative ‘death from a thousand cuts’ situation, where all of these smaller, lesser attacks will, in aggregate, finally exceed the Rightist’s ability to tolerate?
I have no Earthly idea. But I do know that the Rubicon is somewhere, and that across its shore lies Civil War, or something approximating that. And so, in this, we are generally wiser (though not wise, see: Socrates) than our Leftist counterparts, who haven’t a clue about the hornet’s nest they’ve been poking.
If and when the Left crosses the Rubicon, they will certainly be surprised at what lies on the other side. One thing is certain, nobody is going to like it.
Interesting you using the Rubicon in a discussion of the start of civil war since that was the choice of the Roman Senate, submit or another bloody civil war. Then of course the Senate submitted. The U.S. civil war has been over for a hundred and fifty years so no one remembers and few can conceive of the horrors. When it happens MS13 and the drug cartels will look like pussies compared to the barbarities that will take place. Can it be stopped? Considering the behavior the left goes to and the measures those who should be trying to calm things down (media. politicians) are encouraging gets more outrageous and dangerous each day. I think maybe this year or almost certainly next if the dems don’t win big in November.
God help us.
Where is Francisco Franco when you need him?
Still dead, I’m afraid.
Before you get a Francisco Franco, there will have to be a Jose Calvo-Sotelo murdered by the Left. It is coming. We already have to deal with TWANLOC. We will just have to deal with them seriously.
Subotai Bahadur
Upon whose side will MS13 and the cartels weigh in? Will they do it on their own, or will they be paid?
Things to ponder.
MS13 is easy once the festivities start. If you see the tats shoot till they stop moving o one in the chest one in the head.
If they are not hired as mercenaries, they will fight to establish their own turf, their own little territories and virtual countries. Either way, they will mainly use terrorist strategies and tactics. I suspect they will try to exceed ISIS in brutality and shocking methods.
wouldn’t they head south? things would be a lot easier for them if they did
Unfortunately like all power groups some type of force must be applied. With those whose power is maintained by violence the only solution is deadly force.
I think the other shoe will drop when they do get back in power
I hope they bring it!!
SECOND! 😉
Reminder:
http://www.wnd.com/2018/06/up-next-1970s-style-bombings-warns-progressive/
As I’ve stated before (sorry if I sound like a broken record; as I get older; I find myself sounding more and more like my uncles, great uncles and grandfathers), progressives/neo-maoists act very much like 5 y.o. spoiled brats. Their indulgent parents imposed few or no boundaries and reacted every time their precious snowflake had a temper tantrum or held his/her breath because they wanted a new toy, they wanted to stay up late, they wanted dessert before dinner, they want a pony for their birthday, etc etc….
That’s why neo-maoists have no conception of consequences. They shriek and they get a pacifier. Shrieking again gets more and greater rewards. That’s all they know.
Without security present, Elaine Chao and Mitch McConnell would almost certainly have been physically assaulted yesterday evening outside of that restaurant. It was obvious from the body posture and tone of at least one of the ‘demonstrators’ awaiting them (especially the one who began to yell with a voice of strident moral superiority and righteousness.)
Based upon the latest events and the history of BLM and, especially, Antifa (who have already assaulted multiple people and sent them to the hospital, some with permanent nerve damage), the likelihood of multiple serious episodes of violence before the election this november is 95% (to put a number on it.) And no matter what the outcome in November’s election, the violence AFTERWARDS will get worse. If the House swings democrat, the progressives will feel rewarded for their efforts and turn up the volume 1-2 notches. But if they lose, they’ll dial it up to 10 or 11.
We’ve all seen the videos where antifa types brag about how they are carrying melee weapons or getting very preliminary firearms training. Antifa has already shown up to demonstrations with weapons such as large shields (which can be used to attack people), clubs (mostly ineffective, but some not so) and even knives (which, amazingly, they’ve used to attack POLICE.) And we’ve heard about them throwing fireworks bombs and bottles filled with feces and/or urine.
Most of them will continue to do this and will escalate until they are intimidated by equal or greater force. A cadre of some size – likely small, but maybe not – will fight on beyond that, as the link above attests (remember that the ‘author’ quoted in the piece has half a million twitter followers.)
They refuse to take responsibility for their actions, claiming they were provoked by worse from us, because they’re cynical and simply don’t care, because they don’t understand personal limits to behavior or because it satisfies some morbid inner craving. We’re talking about people who have zero conception of reality, folks – just look at the quotations of that ‘journalist’ in the linked article. He and his ilk are psychotically delusional.
So: be ready. It’s very likely to get worse.
And if you live in a blue urban area: move.
You too, eh? (You rotten little kids, get the hell off my lawn … oops. Don’t have a lawn. Xerioscaping.)
I’m thinking with the incoherent, murderous rage on display, we’ll reach the Rubicon sometime in late summer, perhaps at the point where the lefty summertime antics boil over when the blue wave at the polls doesn’t materialize.
Supposedly, the city where I live is tinging blue … but I don’t really see it. Texas, outside of Austin and some of the nastier Houston districts, is a pretty sane and sensible place, these days.
Still, I suppose I should get some range time in, over the next few months, and chat up my most trusty neighbors.
During Range time, be sure to get in some practice at close quarters firing. With the sort of violence that is being discussed here, close quarters will be the order of the day I’m afraid. I personally think the ‘Rubicon’ may be the DNC convention in 2020. It fits them.
The left lives on blue islands. Easy to surround and blockade food, water and energy. In six months, they’d face the prospect of death or surrender. Not complicated. The right would have to figure out how to implement an under ground rail road to get patriots out of blue states. Irony.
Extricating patriots shouldn’t be necessary. If you consider even the bluest of states, the blue is concentrated in a few big cities. Even California and NY are red outside of the large cities. Patriots would do well to move out to the burbs, preferably exurbs.
You ACTUALLY EXPECT Americans to feel bad that TRAITOR McConnell and his Chinese wife that are selling them out were attacked by OTHER INVADERS? You conservatives are WORSE than useless. Stay in the middle and be riddled to death by BOTH SIDES you Cuck.
Little hostile, there.
Ah the libtard has arrived. It’s been awhile since your kind has dared to show their faces here. Welcome.
Leftist filth always finds justification for its iduotic passions
I agree the future (especially in armed conflict) is dark, almost impossible to see, and generally turns out differently that any predict. But the Left doesn’t have it to win, I don’t think they have it to actually start a civil war. They’ve convinced themselves they can, but it’s mostly an exercise of whistling past the cemetery.
As I have been one to use the “Rubicon” quite a bit, I’d better do some explaining. The Left thought Obama was their Caesar to take them across the Rubicon and on to glory. He was not a ‘Caesar’ and they did not cross the Rubicon that they thought they had. They crossed a “Rubicon” alright but the one that leads to destruction and they have no Caesar to save them.
The Left has had their way so long they have become fat, lazy, stupid, and most of all, over confident.
Consider the events of the last three days: lost two big SCOTUS decisions, high ranker loses to a member of the radical wing that wants action, immigration has been nullified as a potent issue for them, and one of theirs on SCOTUS has retired.
The Left faces a big decision, what’s more important, the bi-elections, the SCOTUS seat, or the hurting and removal of Trump. If they think Mueller has something big they have to use it and quickly (as the Socialist election showed or they risk losing the Sanderite wing), but it can only be used once, if Mueller has something. The Left can’t afford to lose ANY of these three and survive, Trump can and can prosper. Now since I’ve been long I shall mercifully stop.
May your prediction be true Oh mighty slayer of enemies.
Thankyou Michel. ‘Song for the Deaf’ below said something everyone should pay attention to,”We’re not the badasses we like to think we are.”, he may be quite right about this. Pre-Civil War the South had two illusions (among many) that cost them dearly; 1) Cotton would be an irresistible diplomatic weapon that would force international intervention and 2) Southerns were better soldiers and therefore any conflict would be to their favor and short.
They were completely wrong on one and two lulled them into disaster. Yes, originally they were better but once the North learned how to fight and brought their industrial advantage to bear it was over. Most troopies will tell you that if you are not destroying your opponent your are just training him.
Ps. I’m not what I used to be, but I assure you, the noises Chaldeans made while being flayed alive were quite exhilarating, unfortunately you can’t do that today, the paperwork is very voluminous and dreary.
It is true however most military vets and the great majority of combat vets are not leftist. No one released or can release us from our oaths. Having seen the horrors of war the combat vet wants to just be left alone. But at the same time we are generally well armed and fully capable of bringing hell on earth to those who threaten us or our country.
This is something the left is either unaware of, or their cadres know and think they can counter. They are horribly mistaken.
You’re absolutely correct.
“the combat vet wants to just be left alone.”
This is not only very true, but also very misunderstood, especially by the left.
Of course, a few low yield nukes would be useful. NYC, Chicago, LA, SF, and Massachusetts would eliminate 90% of the problem.
Bookdoc, The last thing that’s needed is to let those off the chain.
What we have to remember is that most people just want to get along with their lives. They aren’t a part of this and want nothing to do with it. Someone once classified them as sheep. I personally sympathize with them.
The left has had a few Ceasars: Caligula (Bubba), Julius (the first god-ceasar), Augustulus (Rabbit-boy).
L&L
“So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.” George Orwell
Why does the Right keep acting so nice? If they’re the pussies and we’re the strongmen, then why are they the ones attacking us instead of the other way around?
We’re not the badasses we like to think we are. Not until we do something.
It’s the same old story, every time. “I’d do something about it but…”. And so no one does anything.
We on the right have been taught ‘impulse control.’
It’s part of what makes a functioning society. There are laws, applied equally to all. Breaking those laws imposes significant consequences. We’ve gone to school and church and have been socialized. The ideas of law, justice and civil order are ingrained in us and matter to us.
Radical Leftists tend to be different.
I’m not talking about the casual Leftist, which is at least 90% of those who vote democrat. They want law, justice and civil order as well, but haven’t thought thru their political stances beyond “yeah, OK, I guess I’d be happy to help folks who are less fortunate than I by paying a bit more in taxes, and I’ll trust the government to do the right thing with those taxes.”
THere is a subgroup that are far more radical, however. They crave recognition and validation. They were raised without the rigorous or even mild imposition of boundaries, rules and values or were exempted from them when they showed any resistance. They lack, mostly or in total, a genuine degree of impulse control. And they WANT things – the big house, the nice car, celebrity status (or at least widespread recognition that they are as special as they wish they were and/or as much as their parents told them) but, like spoiled children, don’t accept that they have to work for and earn these things, and that there are no guarantees that their efforts will pay off as well as they would wish.
All those factors together turn them into cultists. Thru the Progressive Cult, they are validated, recognized by their peers, are instilled with the belief that they are ABOVE the common fray morally and intellectually, and are not bound by the same rules because of their innate superiority.
Note also that the above referenced factors have at least 75% of these attributes in common with two other groups:
1. Criminals.
2. Barbarians.
This is why radical leftists react to obstacles, impediments or disagreements from those outside the Progressive Cult so extremely. Their emotions dominate them, not reason or self restraint. And as those emotions surge thru them when their belief system is threatened and they subconsciously fear their entire world view and assumed persona could collapse because of this challenge, they LASH OUT to quench the terror that is building inside them.
A subconscious impulse does alert them indirectly to the fact that they (or at least 99% of them) are weaklings. Hence the strong desire to become part of a group or mob, so that they can both lose their identity in the crowd and be swept away in a great wave by the grand power of an event (protest, riot, flash mob, whatever) while being protected within the group because of their anonymity.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve always been somewhat afraid of violence directed at me. If I see a big, nasty looking guy acting menacingly, I’m in no way anxious to engage with him. But I got in my share of fights as a kid in school because at a certain point, past a certain level of antagonism from even the big ones, it does provoke a very angry reaction from me.
Those moments are scary because part of you realizes that someone could get hurt, even badly. If it’s you, that’s a very unhappy thing and could be permanent on occasion; if it’s the other guy, more trouble could easily follow from it (your opponent’s friends, his family, maybe even school officials or, worst of all, the Law.) I was raised to understand that breaking social norms severely has consequences and it strongly affects my willingness to engage in violence. But these moments have happened, and I’ve both given and taken my share of beatings and suffered fallout from it on occasion (but never anything so serious as legal entanglements, thankfully.)
The worst of those events were when I was on the wrong side of a GANG. In my experience, a gang always consists of one especially big and brutal bastard with a string of followers, most who are not as anxious to get into fights unless they have backup and feel assured that their opponent is far inferior to them. The gangs I had the very bad luck of running into were always composed of kids older and bigger than I – typically much more so.
You see, even the most violent amongst us, including those who, thru unpleasant family circumstances, the gift of good genetics for strength, size or speed or, in some cases, deliberate training, are quite skilled at violence, will experience fear – especially if the opponent looks genuinely dangerous in a relative sense. Mike Tyson published an autobiography just a few years ago, and it was interesting to see how his entire childhood, spent at first in a working class neighborhood in Queens and then in a truly miserable ghetto in the same NY borough, was filled with fear originating from a dozen different sources every single day. He openly admits that before every boxing match, no matter how much he disliked his opponent, he was afraid when he entered the ring.
This is the difference between someone like me and, say, those three jerks in their early twenties (I’d guess) who confronted Mitch McConnell and his wife Elaine Chao after dinner the other day. Mitch McConnell is a very unimpressive man physically, and is clearly both elderly and infirm, while his wife is 65 and 5’3″. Both were dressed very well and were practically a postcard of a quiet elderly couple. Those three guys who accosted them felt brave because they were so clearly physically superior to their opponents, and they were TOGETHER.
And this is why one of the very few things that can get me going from a zero to a ten in a split second on the anger meter is running into a gang, especially if it’s wannabees. It’s what I see the radical/progressive left as – a collection of viciously spiteful cowards and weaklings with, at most, one genuinely dangerous Alpha amongst at least a thousand betas, gammas and zeta manleteers.
Those alphas are potentially scary. There are some people i this world who seem to love to fight anyone they run across, simply because they have this terrible urge to inflict a vicious injury on somebody, even if they get themselves killed. I have run into a few of those guys, and they are genuinely scary. If you ever have to tangle with someone like that, you can’t restrain yourself from doing anything and everything possible to protect your person. The rest of them, though, are despicable little worms.
So, in summary after this long rant:
I don’t want any trouble. I would love for things to go back to the way they were in the 80’s and 90’s, which were a helluva fun and happy time for me. I would love the freedom to live life as best I can on my own terms within the boundaries of the civil society we had back then, and would love to see everyone enjoy that same freedom. But I will protect me and mine from today’s neo-Maoists. If there’s too many and the situation is all in their favor, I may have to retreat. But they better hope they never cross paths with me again under circumstances not so favorable to themselves.
We on the right have been taught ‘impulse control.’
It’s part of what makes a functioning society.
I keep myself under very tight control, always have. On the rare occasions that I cut loose, it is very effective. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be that way all the time. Liberating, no doubt. I would probably be a millionaire or an admiral, or a unabomber.
If the Lefty gets arrested and convicted what do the lose? Nothing they CARE about.
If someone on the Right is arrested what do they lose? Their job, their home, may be their family.
They don’t even have to be convicted, just arrested.
Also someone on the Right will be arrested for things that would be ignored if a Lefty did it.
The Lefties are HOPING that someone they are harassing will lose it and hit them.
If they do then the Lefty wins.
See all the 60’s protesters trying to get the Police or even the NG to react.
Kent State was their finest hour. They STILL continue to use it.
Two points. We of the non left have been raised to civilized standards where as the left appear to be spoiled brats. Secondly there are hundreds of thousands of trained combat vets. We have seen war up close and personal. We don’t want to see it again. However if we are forced then those of you who clamor for action as well as the left which start the civil war will find horrors beyond anything you could imagine in your worst nightmares.
Keep in mind, also, that Leftism/Progressivism is a fundamentalist belief system … that sees the world not as Left vs. Right, but as Normal vs. Ignorant/Evil and therefore justifies trampling on the liberty – and perhaps, lives – of its opponents to impose its One and Only True Way upon us all.
Its adherents are, in many ways, what they decry.
I’m less concerned by the obviously violent, though, than I am of the busybodies who are adept at inflicting the death-by-a-thousand-cuts scenario upon us. They have seventy years of Blue Social Model conventional wisdom, accepted by millions of our neighbors, to hide behind – which will allow them to go much farther in trampling upon our liberty before facing real opposition, because that conventional wisdom enables them to cast us as greedy/heartless for pointing out behavioral and economic reality.
Including the reality that relying upon that conventional wisdom and the shortcuts it offers, leaves one vulnerable to the failings of those they trust to lead this society.
Those of us on the right don’t deal in intimidation, fear, and bullying tatcics. We deal in reality and righteousness. We are the strong hand, and we know it. So we don’t respond. We are restrained by our hope and our sense of righteousness. But if the left continues down this path of violence we will respond. With all the vigor and conviction we can muster. And after we defeat them, we will reach out our hand in sympathy and endeavor to teach them the error of their ways. Because we are not the haters they imagine us to be.
If a rightist walked up to a democrat politician tomorrow and shot them in the face, the FIRST group of people to condemn it would be other rightists. Commentators and the “elite” would fall over themselves in the rush to be the first in front of a microphone to declare how terrible it was and how conservatives don’t support this kind of thing. Everyone else on the fence would get the message:
You do this and you are on your own. You will get no support in any form and we will lead the charge to crucify you.
That is how the right always behaves towards it own. Policing action that its “leaders” don’t approve of.
When Caesar crossed the Rubicon, he destroyed the Republic and established the Principate. There will be no Constitutional government in the US after Civil War II. There will be a dictatorship of the left or of the right, but no representative democracy.
The parallels are different since we have no Caesar or group of strong leaders vying for power. With 1.5 guns for every man, woman and child in civilian hands the potential dictator doesn’t stand a chance. Will it be like today where if you have a pulse you get to vote? No. I believe the right to have a say in governing will have to be earned and civics class will be much more important than it is today so we never again have to face another civil war. This civil war will be so terrible it will imprint the American psyche as the holocaust has imprinted the Jewish one.
Reichstag fire.
Many leftist will be horrifyingly martyred by their leaders and the whole middle will approve the following martial law.
There probably won’t be a civil war. Only tyranny.
What Mr. Black and Bob Sykes said:
I’m not sure I see this as a full blown civil war with opposing gov’ts a la the 1860’s. It is more likely to be an exaggerated version of the 1960/1970’s. If the left does resort to actual bomb throwing, then the right has less of a dilemma. We can call for the enforcement of the law and not have to resort to individual/gang violence.
The other possibility, as I infer from TSW’s comments, is that we may start w/individuals facing gangs, but that will quickly morph into gangs facing gangs. And law enforcement will be in the middle, even though they may have a strong preference for one side. The optics for the Left will be that of a small, weak group being beaten up by a nasty group. And the media will all agree. So the gangs on the right will quickly be painted as violent thugs, not as groups justifiably responding to outrageous provocation. And the silent majority (apologies for the Nixon reference) of people, who just want to live in peace and don’t see the coming threats, will agree.
I hate to go Godwin on this, but this is the parallel I see to Germany in the late 1920’s and early 1930’s. And, I think, another reason for the reluctance of the right to start anything.
Yara, you make an excellent point – gangs do indeed spawn rival gangs in response to their thuggishness. It’s part of the instinctive tribalism of humanity.
When I was a kid, my best friend got into a fight with another kid. The other kid had lots of emotional problems and started the fight for no reason whatsoever. This other kid got his ass handed to him. I immediately approached my friend and told him what I knew about the other kid – including the fact that the emotionally disturbed kid had an older brother who ran with a rough crowd. We made an agreement with each other to watch each other’s backs, and my friend guaranteed the support of his older brother who also ran with another bad crowd.
The very next day, I was doing something for my dad in the back yard. I was alone. And I was confronted by three kids – one of them the emotionally disturbed one – each with a switchblade.
I saw in the face of the older brother of the emotionally disturbed kid a hint of uncertainty. Right then, he got the full story of the fight from me, along with a warning in no uncertain terms concerning what would happen to them at the hands of MY backup should they take any further steps towards myself or my friend. I saw the recognition of the truth pass over the face of the older brother (I felt that at heart he was a rather intelligent and rational type, and my suspicions were confirmed that day.) The problem ended that day and there were no further confrontations. I was very glad of this, because if it had escalated, I would have been forced to fully participate in the activities of my friend’s older brother in order to ensure my own protection – and that would have been a very bad thing indeed.
The point is that if mass trouble starts, it will spiral out of control VERY quickly, and the repercussions will be quite bad as well as lasting.
To be honest, I wouldn’t worry about the media having even an opportunity to justify or support any terrorist or thuggish actions of the left. If things spin up to that point, events will outpace and overtake the media. At an individual level, they will be victims themselves of leftist violence, as gangs determine by their own illogical criteria that certain people aren’t sufficiently committed to the ’cause’ and would need to serve as an ‘example.’ Thus, I think you’ll see the media fall apart and become quite frightened by the chaos.
The left doesn’t understand who it’s pushing. But then the left doesn’t understand much. What if those leading the left however do understand and it’s purposeful.
“What if those leading the left however do understand and it’s purposeful.”
Leftists are the demon infested winged monkey servants of Satan, so, yeah, their “leader” knows what he is doing and where he is going and wants to drag as many dupes there with him as he can.
Believe me, I know, I live in the belly of the demon infested Beast, the San Fran Psycho Bayarrhea Fecalifornia USA.
The main portal to/from hell is located here, at the corner of Market & Castro. You think I’m kidding? A friend of mine saw it about 30 years ago, in a vision where he saw hordes of demons marching out of a hole in the street. I was skeptical then but I’m not any more.
The left doesn’t need tip be good at c.o.d.because they will work cooperatively – press, courts, corporations, military (most of the brass voted for Hillary), Deep State, and, in blue states, the police – to crush anyone on the right who fights back. Conservative Inc will also virtue signal that they aren’t bad people and support the left’s crackdown. I like the freeloaders, the right have jobs and families. They will lose their jobs then their families if they fight back.
Correction “good at violence”
Can you link me to Col. Kratman’s article? I’ve read Kurt and Ace’s take. Thank you.
I knew a Mark Edwards in Austin many years ago, that wouldn’t be you by any chance?
Probably not 🙂 I live in WA state. I’ve visited Austin but never lived there.
Oh well, thanks. Yeah the one I knew grew up there and would be older (not around 2800yrs like me, but older).
Antifa violence has been plenty illegal in thousands of cases but sympathetic (Democrat controlled) jurisdictions keep giving them a pass, squandering our precious opportunity to deter the left’s descent into criminal madness and civil war.
ALL politically motivated crimes can also be prosecuted both criminally and civilly under federal civil rights laws. Obama wasn’t going to do that but Trump can, and the need was urgent they day he took office. Unfortunately his appointment of Jeff Sessions as AG, which looked reasonable at the time, has been a disaster and the prosecution of political violence is one of the many areas where Sessions has been a total failure.
A red wave in the mid-terms will give Trump the political clout to fire Sessions without the establishment wing of the GOP joining with Democrats to impeach him (as they have been promising to do to this point). Most important mid-terms ever.
There seems to be a growing drumbeat of voices I respect warning against a sudden escalation of violence between Left and Right. That alone worries me. The nature of the restaurant incidents also bothers me because they seem to have been perpetrated spontaneously by ‘normal’ people–a federal employee, a restaurant owner who had no intention of doing what she did when the night started out. I am afraid that the hate machine the Left has created is now running just fine without direction from its creators.
Rightists, like my friend, are rightly fearful of the consequences of this thing going bad. We have some idea of what this really means, and so we hold back earnestly hoping for another way. This, in turn (and sadly), emboldens the Leftists, most of whom have no Earthly idea what they are really agitating for, or the risks they are taking, because they have no experience with risks like these.
Leftists do not understand the concept of unintended consequences.
Funny, I just realized I’ve been using this expression more and more often lately.
I have warned mightily about going down the road to civil war every place I get a chance to. While I warn of the horrors I haven’t necessarily been clear on the shape I see.
There will not be fixed boundaries like in 1860. I think this will be more tribal in nature with neighborhoods or something the size of small towns. Of course once people start blowing up oil refineries NG and oil pipelines it won’t be as mobile, Once winter sets in that will all but end it. Of course those even suspected of being on the opposing side will be hunted down and lets not forget all the petty grudges that can be violently settled. When the dust settles or spring comes we will be lucky to have any country left.
If the rest of the world is as connected to us as some claim most other countries will be in ruins also.
Perhaps this localized violence can be partially pinpointed in advance.
For instance:
My impression (right or wrong) is that groups such as Antifa are concentrated in West Coast metros like LA, SF, Portland and Seattle. I know there’s a chapter in Austin which is effervescently Maoist, and the guy who shot up that church to the southeast of Austin might have been a member or well known to members (at least that’s what it sounds like.) On the east coast, I would bet Antifa and BLM would have a strong presence in Baltimore, Philadelphia, Trenton, Camden and parts of NYC (especially the Bronx.) As for the rest of the country: St Louis, Chicago and….well….gosh, I think that’s about it.
It is not unreasonable to speculate that an ‘uprising’ of the neo-maoists will be concentrated in the above mentioned locations. Being irrational, they’ll target ‘their own’ first. Well to do neighborhoods in those cities will likely be some of the first targets, as well as police stations. College faculties and administrators will be targeted to weed out those who are not sufficiently ‘ideologically pure’ or ‘committed.’
Right now, I’m keeping an ear peeled for the shooter at the Capital Gazette in Maryland. That local paper seems to write a lot about veterans, the pentagon and the naval academy in Annapolis, but in good terms. Maybe some Antifa guy wanted to shut them up?
Yes, I know – too early to tell.
Wait: some edits to the above.
1. I think I confused the church shooter in SE Austin with the MAIL BOMBER in Austin. The Mail Bomber seems to have been affiliated with the local Antifa chapter. Not sure about the shooter.
2. Seems the shooter at the Capital Gazette was just a garden variety nut. I think that’s much better than him being an Antifa member. 🙂
To clarify. In three days after the trucks stop rolling every grocery shelf will be empty. If the NG pipelines get blown no power except nuke, hydro and coal. these remaining power plants will not be able to meet demand. If because there is no gas workers can’t get to power plants the plants will shut down. Best case is people have a weeks worth of food at home. Think Venezuela and Zimbabwe on steroids.
Can Canada and Mexico handle the refugees or do they collapse under the weight? Can Europe survive without the U.S.? Will Israel be forced to use it’s nukes to defend itself without U.S. backing? How about Pakistan and India? How many nukes before we get a year or two of nuke winter? China and Russia are frenemies at the best of times and China has eyed eastern Siberia for a long time. Australia and New Zealand may escape relatively unscathed but they cant rebuild the world. South and Central America and Africa are corruptocracies on the verge of collapse on any given day already.
Isn’t geopolitical domino theory fun?
I too am not sure when it will happen or what exactly will trigger it, but I’ve made sure to be prepared for it. I’ve my primary and secondary targets picked out – all very soft but very emotionally valuable and good for forcing the enemy to reallocate resources to defense.
Frankly though, unlike your friend, I accept that I and my family won’t be likely to see the end of the coming war. I’ve plans to get them to a safer location but that’s iffy in war that will have no front lines.
Update:
It seems Antifa in Portland is still very active. There was a protest march by “Patriot Prayer” yesterday with about 150 or so people carrying american flags and supporting some Republican senatorial candidate.
Personally, I think the demonstration was pointless. The chances of Oregon electing a congressman or senator from the right are about as high as my chances of becoming a chinese astronaut. But the local antifa chapter wanted to view things otherwise. This peaceful and utterly irrelevant demonstration became a triggering event for antifa, who organized a ‘counter protest’ with twice the number of people, all spun up into a delusional frenzy concerning how ‘fascism’ was being forced down their throats.
So: there was trouble. Antifa scum started throwing rocks and bottles and fireworks. No word yet if the bottles had the usual feces, urine or caustic materials. Fortunately nobody was seriously hurt.
Portland cops showed up in force and arrested multiple people with concealed melee weapons – knives and clubs, mostly. The patriot folks seemed to be ready as well and made a good accounting of themselves:
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9VJvv_1530408966
At the end of the video, there are links to other videos of the same event.
A hopeful sign:
Apparently the citizens of Portland – which is a longtime progressive city – are sick to death of this crap. Antifa types are, as far as I understand it, hated and reviled in the city, and there is widespread support for the police to bring the hammer down on these idiots. Common sense and common decency are still alive and will likely prevail.
Maybe we can hope that these same sentiments will begin to assert themselves more widely amongst progressives.
And now a less hopeful sign:
The War Drums are sounding.
https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/no-substitute-for-total-victory/
There’s no flaw in the logic, unfortunately.
I remember the Skokie decision and how outraged I initially was that the Nazis won that case. The ACLU was on the Nazi side in that case. After I cooled down I realized the wisdom of that decision. Fast forward to today and the ACLU must determine whether a case fits their criteria as to whether they will defend the First Amendment.
I agree Mr. Walsh’s logic is flawless and the war drums grow louder.
Most people across the spectrum don’t realize that war – especially a civil war is hell. You end up with an enemy who for the most part looks like you. Paranoia, suspicion, and a willingness to do what has to be done ends up the final result.
Sometimes, I lean toward fighting fire with fire. It’s a dangerous weapon to deploy though.
When woke keyboard warriors start threatening you from your Ipods or woke restaurants ban you for wrongthink and apparel choices, or go after your job for a Facebook post, you start becoming willing to apply the same battle tactics to them. If they don’t have a moral high ground, there’s no point treating them as such.
However, there are plenty of people on all sides of the spectrum who don’t do this. They don’t deserve scorched earth and we all have to remember that. What people forget is that “fire” tends to turn people into “radicals”. It can awaken them give a new purpose.
Every time the “resistance” goes after someone’s job and ensures they can’t pay their mortgage and places their families well being in jeopardy,it creates a new determined enemy with nothing to lose and a new found sense of purpose and revenge. I’m starting to think they forget this, don’t think about it, or simply don’t care.
That said, we all need to be careful as well. The same can happen with us. If we stare into the abyss for too long, we may become like these people.
I’ve certainly read enough Selco to know that the truth of what could happen is horrific!
Just ran across this https://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/as-trump-builds-the-resistance-shouts-destroy/
Worth reading especially the quote from Evelyn Waugh in 1938.
Great article and comments section. I’m in the camp who does not want a CW2 here. Most calling for this have no real frame of reference for what that will look like, including me. The difference is A.-I have experienced actual real violence and have some scars to show for it. B. I have studied the “troubles” in Northern Ireland extensively and came away with a profound desire to avoid that happening here. That said, some people just won’t let it be. If it comes, I lived far longer than I ever dreamed I would so I will die defending my God and my country.
Here’s a different perspective from Bruce Thornton. http://www.frontpagemag.com/author/bruce-thornton
The article is Will Our Current Political Conflicts Turn Violent.
Probably the last or next to last comment on this article:
I’m rather certain that the new SC nominee fight is going to see the shoe drop at least half way.
It’s already clear that the Progressives/Neo-Maoists are going to use this as an excuse to virtue signal like never before and that the MSM will fan the flames of hate, violence and irrationality with a special vigor.